We signed to Victory in 2003. We put out two records before that on a small label called Thorp Records, and we were just at a point where we knew that we wanted to start touring full-time, and seeing the country and everything. And then Atreyu helped us out, and they gave our CD to Victory and said: Hey, you should really pick up these guys! We were talking to a couple of other labels at the time, but then Victory was like: If you guys are serious about being a band, well put everything behind you guys.Well help you guys do it. So we have been on Victory since and put out two records on Victory